Rolling Stone Ranks “Top” Game of Thrones Characters: Do They Get It Wrong?

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Daenerys says “Dracarys” and Pyat Pree goes up in flames. © HBO.

While researching an upcoming article about character names, I got distracted by a Rolling Stone article from before Season 4 began. The article lists the “top” Game of Thrones characters, and its rankings, which I discuss below, are definitely debatable.

Rolling Stone uses the word “top” to mean “the most memorable” characters, or the ones with the “strongest story arcs. The best one-liners. The most shocking demises.” Are their choices truly memorable? And, are they memorable now that Season 4 is over? A lot has changed.

First of all, Rolling Stone‘s article is great because it leaves lots of room for debate. If every list began with Tyrion and Arya, it would be boring, right?

Rolling Stone ranks Daenerys as #1. Emilia Clarke’s portrayal of Daenerys is about as wooden as it gets and her storylines on the show often feel like they are on pause. The next day nobody is ever standing around the water cooler talking about Daenerys. Sure, Daenerys has some good lines — “Dracarys!” frankly kicks butt — however, Askmen.com also named Emilia Clarke as the desirable woman alive this year.  Does a hot actress make a character more memorable?

Since Rolling Stone’s article is about the show, I guess it’s fair for the actors’ performances — and their onscreen charisma, sex appeal, and presence — to influence their rankings.

The number of memorable scenes a character is in, however, might also influence their “memorable-ness”. If this is the case, would all of Rolling Stone‘s picks make the cut? What about now that Season 4 is over?

Just for kicks, here are a few thoughts about Rolling Stone‘s list. If you haven’t read it already, you may want to take a look at the article I wrote about the most memorable moments in the show as well, which I created with Rolling Stone‘s list in mind.

Here are a few perplexing, intriguing, and debate-worthy highlights from Rolling Stone‘s  list: I’d love to hear what you think and who would be in your top ten.

Rolling Stone’s Top Ten Characters

Rolling Stone‘s intriguing and even baffling picks for the top characters in Game of Thrones.

10 – Brienne of Tarth

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I love Brienne, but I’m not sure if I think she is more memorable than Catelyn Stark (for example) whom Rolling Stone ranked a lowly #39 out of 40. Still, the scene when Locke made her fight a bear with a wooden sword in the “Bear and the Maiden Fair” was pretty intense. And, Jaime’s rescue of the fair maiden was nothing but romantic.

9 – Tywin Lannister

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As anyone who reads this site regularly knows, I’m a huge fan of Charles Dance’s performance, which brings a nuanced complexity to Tywin’s character. I can split the difference with Rolling Stone on ranking Tywin #8. How about you?

8 – Bronn

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Yes, really: Bronn made the top 10. Jerome Flynn’s performance certainly humanizes the sellsword, but how much would we miss Bronn if he wasn’t around? Surely not as much as his neighbor on this list, Arya. And, is he really more memorable than, say, Jaime Lannister (#13)? Who can forget the moment Jaime pushed Bran out the window in Season 1?

7 – Arya Stark

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Should Arya be higher on this list? In most fan polls, including an old one from the early days of this website, Arya is listed as everyone’s second favorite character. Arya is the only major point-of-view character with a chapter in every novel.

6 – Cersei Lannister

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The “mother of madness” has encouraged her brother/lover to shove a child out a high tower window, driven her husband to condemn an innocent dire wolf, and relished the thought of killing her brother. Without a doubt, Cersei is one of the top characters we love to hate.

Cersei’s character drives numerous plotlines. Even though she is evil incarnate, she never appears plasticky and we can see how she became who she is. While the wicked queen hasn’t had quite as many truly monstrous moments lately, her smile when Prince Oberyn died could freeze lava. Cersei’s spot in the top 10 is still well deserved.

5 – Ned Stark

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Given we haven’t seen Ned in three years now, it might be surprising he is this high on Rolling Stone’s list. However, after his shocking execution in Season 1 and the shock waves it sent across the Internet, I’d argue Rolling Stone could have ranked Ned #1. Come to think of it, given the stunned reaction of fans after Oberyn’s death, if Rolling Stone had written this list in June instead of March, maybe Rolling Stone would have placed Oberyn could have given Ned a run for his money.

4 – Sansa Stark

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This may be the perfect and well-deserved spot for Mrs. Tyrion Lannister.  Teenage Sophie Turner does an admirable job bringing the once-spoiled noble girl to life in an increasingly sympathetic way.

3- Tyrion Lannister

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Should Tyrion be the top dog? He is almost always the winner of the “everyone’s favorite character” polls. Tyrion is even George RR Martin’s favorite character.

I’d be willing to be willing to bet that the Imp gets more screen time than Daenerys. And, Tyrion’s plotline is one of the most exciting around.

2 – Joffrey Baratheon

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Joffrey could easily rival Tyrion as the most memorable character. George RR Martin himself has praised the now-retired-actor Jack Gleeson’s performance. The novels provide more backstory into young sociopath-in-training’s truly sadistic ways than you see in the show. Gleeson’s performance, however, compensated for this loss and helped cement our hatred of the young king.

1- Daenerys

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In the novels, George RR Martin gives us a lot more insight into Daenerys emotional landscape and the thirteen-year old princess’ terror in being sold to a foreign warlord. The book Daenerys grows on you in ways that the TV Daenerys does not. I might even go so far as to say that the only thing that redeems this rather lackluster storyline are the dragons and the fabulous secondary characters — Jorah of Mormont, Grey Worm, and Missandei — and the actors who portray them.

In fairness to Daenerys, she may well be one of the most important characters in A Song of Ice and Fire, many seasons seem to end with powerful images in her world (“Mhysa!”), and she has some fantastic lines and powerful scenes. Who can forget her ruthless decision to crucify all the slave masters of Meereen?

And, before I get hate mail for calling Emilia Clarke’s performance wooden, it is worth pointing out that what appears to be a wooden performance might be the director’s instructions or her dialog. Daenerys doesn’t get nearly as many conflict-driven scenes and only rarely gets to utter those killer lines.

Hmmm…

Should Rolling Stone given these people the ranking they received?

11 – Robert Baratheon

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Number 11 is far too high for Robert Baratheon. Not only did the late king have relatively few scenes, dramatically Robert Baratheon is relatively unimportant. Yes, he is the king and his death is certainly one of several catalysts in season 1, but he doesn’t actually propel the plot forward that often through often through his own actions. His dramatic role is more passive.

16 – Jon Snowjon-dany-promo

How is it that Daenerys is #1 and yet her counterpart Jon Snow is #16? Fans are betting their fates will converge and their storylines certainly have equal weight. After all, both of their faces are in Season 4’s major promo ad?

21 – Petyr Baelish

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Rolling Stone ranked Littlefinger as #21. This might be fair in fact. Still, as the mastermind of Jon Arryn’s death and the schemer who got Ned to King’s Landing, Littlefinger may be the one who is ultimately behind the Game of Thrones.

At the bottom of the heap

Some surprisingly low-ranked characters from Rolling Stone’s list.

38 – Ramsay Snow

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“This is turning into a lovely evening,” Ramsay (Iwan Rheon) tells Yara, after he catches her mid-rescue attempt in the kennels. © HBO.

This may be a situation where a character has become much more memorable in Season 4.

First of all, Iwan Rheon delivers a magnetic performance in his role as Ramsay Snow. You can’t take your eyes off of him. And, Ramsay’s fight with Yara was electric.

Although Ramsay isn’t a point-of-view character in the novels, he gets almost as much screen time as Theon. Ramsay has been in almost every scene with Theon this season. Ramsay’s actions also drive a fair number of storylines, including the flaying of the Ironborn, the capture of Moat Cailin, Yara’s rescue attempt, and more. Plus, who can forget when Ramsay and Myranda hunted Myranda’s rival through the woods?

32 – Samwell Tarly

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Not only is a Sam a point-of-view character as of A Storm of Swords, he also has a significant amount of screen time.

29 – Theon Greyjoy

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Theon has some of the most shocking scenes in the show and is a major point-of-view character as of A Clash of Kings. What on earth is Rolling Stone thinking? Who can forget when Theon seized Winterfell, chopped off Ser Rodrik Cassel’s head, burnt the bodies of the little farm boys? Not to mention what happens with Ramsay. I would like to forget how Ramsay captured and savagely tortured Theon — and yet I can’t.

27 – Robb Stark

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Robb Stark was one of the three main victims of the Red Wedding — the show’s most shocking scene to date and the scene in A Storm of Swords that George RR Martin found the hardest to write. Surely, Robb should at least be in the top 20?

24 – Olenna Tyrell

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Although Olenna Tyrell sadly gets relatively little screen time, Diana Rigg’s riveting performance gives this character disproportionate gravitas. Also, if the show is to be believed, Olenna co-conspired to off Joff. If Daenerys can win on the basis of Emilia Clarke’s on-screen charisma, surely we could knock Olenna up a few notches?

So, that’s the list, but the main fun of this is to be debate it. What are your thoughts on these rankings?

 

All images are copyright HBO.

 

Jamie Adair is the editor of History Behind Game of Thrones, a website about the history behind George RR Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" novels and the hit TV show, "Game of Thrones."

23 Comments

  • Reply July 1, 2014

    Olga Hughes

    Varys at number 12? I shall await my revenge. Seeing Jon so far down the list is surprising considering it was a “season 3” list but it just reinforces my opinion that the series is not concentrating on the characters at the Wall enough.

    Poor Emilia. She does get some really cringe-worthy lines but then again another actor delivering bad lines can still do a better job. She is wooden, it’s just a fact, though I thought her performance in the finale was one of her best. They’ve also stripped an awful lot of her character back though.

    I would take Ned, while I like his character he’s really no longer that relevant at this point, and Bronn (really???) out of the top ten and replace them with Littlefinger and Theon. I mean seriously Theon had loads of screen-time in Season 3, what gives there?

    • Reply July 1, 2014

      Jamie Adair

      You would take Ned out of the top 10. Really?? But, his death is Season 1’s big shocker. I agree about Theon though. I was thinking that maybe they got mixed up when they were creating the list and started thinking of the characters they liked instead, which of course is a different thing. Theon isn’t my favorite character, but he *is* an extremely important character and was even back in Season 3.

      As for Varys ROFL, I mean he is the wild card. I love Varys and fully intend to do some history articles about him in the near-ish future. I don’t know if I would rank him as higher than 12, but he is very important. Certainly more important than Bronn. :S

      I felt bad about writing that comment about Emilia’s performance being “wooden” but it is. I actually googled what constitutes bad acting one day and somebody defined it as not seeing emotions in the character’s eyes – being able to tell what the character is thinking through the actor’s eyes. And, all too often Emilia’s acting really fits that bill. Occasionally, especially when she has good material to work with, she rises above this bar. I thought she did a good job in that sequence where she imprisons the dragons and dismisses Jorah.

  • Reply July 1, 2014

    Jun

    I’m not sure if this counts as “memorable,” but when I’m watching the sitcom series “Vicious,” Iwan Rheon’s character, a nice boy living next door to Ian McKellen and Derek Jacobi, his smiles still creep me out. I keep waiting for him to break out a sharp, glistening knife and skin the couple. Maybe my impression of Ramsey Bolton is more rooted in the book character, but Rheon’s performance is quite, uh, distinctive.

    • Reply July 1, 2014

      Jamie Adair

      Is he is in a sitcom too? I didn’t know that. Is it on US television any idea? (Not sure where you’re based…) I agree. I feel like book Ramsay and TV Ramsay are too different people, and I find it easier to stomach TV Ramsay.

      • Reply July 2, 2014

        Jun

        Yes I’m in metro Washington DC area. Our local PBS has recently started showing the series. If you are in Boston, I think WGBH is also showing it. (http://www.wgbh.org/programs/Vicious-2738)

        I agree it’s easier to stomach TV Ramsay and that says something about GRRM’s skills at writing horror…

        • Reply July 8, 2014

          Jamie Adair

          Re: horror
          Interestingly, I believe GRRM’s friends (or friendly) with Stephen King. I think they coauthored an anthology or something together.

  • Reply July 2, 2014

    Watcher on the Couch

    I like Emilia Clarke as Daenerys though the character does seem to have developed a sense of entitlement as she has grown more powerful (bearing in mind the sense of entitlement was one of the factors that annoyed me about her late, unlamented brother, Viserys). The sense of entitlement makes her less sympathetic, in my opinion, than she was when she was the lost girl at the beginning of Season I. I’m not going to start calling you mean, horrible people for holding a different opinion to myself though. (I recall a radio interview from the 1980s where the actor who played Blake Carrington on “Dynasty” said that a lady had tried to bash him over the head with her handbag at Atlanta Airport because she thought his character being mean to Krystle – his onscreen wife). The Joffrey and Tywin actors did well with unlikable characters. On the whole I like to think of the cast as an ensemble rather than pick this one over that one. I didn’t like the made-up Talisa character but I would not blame the actress playing her for that.

    • Reply July 2, 2014

      Jun

      LOL at the Dynasty example. I hope no one bothers poor Jack Gleeson who did a great job with Joffrey. I think the entire cast (including GRRM himself) has the same fear and therefore have been insisting what a nice and smart young man he is in every interview and DVD commentary since Season 1.

      • Olga Hughes
        Reply July 7, 2014

        Olga Hughes

        Jack was really wonderful as Joffrey, my absolute favourite scene was where Tywin was telling him to go and have a rest and Joffrey snarled “I’m…not…tired!” It was hysterical.

  • Reply July 14, 2014

    Nikkkk

    Thankyou for the read, agree on all points. I saw the RS article and it always bugs me how people can put Daenerys at number 1. I think its mostly due to her being the poster character of the series. She is hot though. Tyrion/Arya FTW

  • Reply July 14, 2014

    sd

    i agree with almost all of this.
    emilia IS a wooden actress. i don’t feel bad at all about saying that. it’s not a facet of the character – it’s just her portrayal…and it really removes me from all the daenerys scenes. i enjoyed the book counter-part and think daenery’s is one of the best roles, but i’m sorry, emilia at this point is easily the weakest cast member (now that shae is gone). the character is a top 10 for sure on merit of circumstance alone, but emilia is unfortunately weak compared to her co-stars.

    some of the rankings are an absolute joke though. bronn in the top 10?? jerome flynn is great, but there’s no way his character warrents that spot over jaime and jon. brienne would barely make my top 20, nevermind 10, and ned should be a bit lower down (perhaps #9). i also agree with you about robert baratheon being too high, and wtf at cat and robb (though cat inparticular) at being so low???

    all of the lannisters (and joffrey ;p) are wonderful though and every one of them is top 10 material (again re: jaime – wtf?!). they’re easily the best cast family.

    my top 10 changes a lot, but in no particular order, it would include:
    all the lannisters (tywin, cersei, tyrion, jaime + joffrey), jon snow, daenerys targaryen, arya + sansa stark with an interchangable spot between ned and varys (and an honourable mention to viserys – harry lloyd was unsettlingly delightful in the role and to date my favourite element of any of daenery’s storyline).

    • Reply July 15, 2014

      Jamie Adair

      Thank you!!! It’s really validating that you wrote this reply!! 🙂 Also, thanks for saying you find Emilia Clarke’s performance wooden. I feel a bit bad I wrote that, but she kind of kills that whole story line in my opinion. But, it probably doesn’t help that she doesn’t get that many lines. Maybe she needs more filler scenes to humanize her and less standing around looking regal?

      I don’t generally do that many news articles, but when I read the Rolling Stone list, I just couldn’t believe it. Some of the ratings were shocking. I agree about Jerome Flynn being great – and it is nothing to do with his portrayal – but I would never put Bronn as a character in the top 10. I was pretty amazed they put Cat so low. Seriously.

      The Lannisters are the “Best Cast Family” I like that. 🙂 You’re right. Even when you hate them, you still tune in to watch them.

      You see what you wrote is a normal list — like what you’d expect.
      “all the lannisters (tywin, cersei, tyrion, jaime + joffrey), jon snow, daenerys targaryen, arya + sansa stark with an interchangable spot between ned and varys (and an honourable mention to viserys – harry lloyd was unsettlingly delightful in the role and to date my favourite element of any of daenery’s storyline).”

      I can only conclude Rolling Stone created the list to be controversial, or they are just really out of touch.

  • Reply September 26, 2014

    Fan

    Emilia Clarke is actually one of the few actresses who can act here. She is supposed to be strong. She is supposed to be tough. Her storyline is really the only one I even care to watch. You sound jealous!

    • Reply September 26, 2014

      Jamie Adair

      Maybe I am jealous and I don’t realize it. Lol. Afterall Emilia Clarke is beautiful, but I found her storyline excruciating to watch. (Dany in the books is a great nuanced character.) It was only towards the end of Season 4 that Clarke actually came to life, IMO. The scenes where she chains the dragons and severs her relationship with Jorah were excellent. But I read once that the way to judge an actor’s performance is if the emotion reaches her eyes, and I found that Clarke’s eyes rarely reflected her character’s emotions. With that said, I don’t think that she had the best material to work with. So much of the good stuff with her character in the books is the character’s interior world and the show cuts out quite a bit of stuff.

  • Reply September 27, 2014

    Watcher on the Couch

    The “jealousy” card tends to get banded about if one says anything negative about a woman who is deemed comely. I had it said to me because I didn’t like a couple of 1980s female singers as singers – no, I wasn’t jealous I just didn’t like their voices. These aren’t exactly the words but the “I am just a little girl” interior words of book Dany irritated me. Maybe I came to sympathise with show Dany as portrayed by EC in season 1 when she was bullied by Viserys – whatever reason I have never had a problem with EC. I’ve said before when I’ve looked at other GoT websites some people complain about Yara not being “hot” enough. Olga thinks the show-runners have made Yara more dour than book Asha which doesn’t help. I don’t have a problem with Gemma Whelan. I thought EC’s eyes looked really sad when she imprisoned the dragons – okay, it was probably glycerine….but hey, different strokes for different folks. Because of recommendations I tried “Mad Men” during its early days but it didn’t appeal to me but quite a lot of folks like it. One factor of ASoIAF – the books at least – is the POV telling of the tale from different perspectives, so it is natural that different show watchers/book readers would form varying opinions [could one call opinions points of view?]. The show-runners make some of the females in the show rougher looking than in real life [Tara Fitzgerald who plays Selyse, Stannis’ wife is attractive in real life] and I would say Gwendoline Christie is handsomer as herself than when she plays Brienne.

  • Olga Hughes
    Reply September 28, 2014

    Olga Hughes

    Before I choke on more gushing about George’s “strong” female characters – George writes his female characters as individual *characters* – not as a ‘strong woman’ trope.
    One of my favourite George-isms “I think women are people too”.

    I don’t really agree Watcher about book-Daeny, about the only thing that makes me like Daeny is her recollections of the house with the red door. Otherwise, as CS always says, she has too much destiny. I like the moments where she muddles through things, I like her awkwardness with her sexuality and her indecisiveness. In the show she is just a little too self-entitled. Yes yes you’re the blood of the dragon Daeny. As Jamie says much of it is how the girl is written and directed. She is young, she’s not a very experienced actress and because they leave a lot of her inner reflection out a lot of her dialogue is just boring.

  • Reply September 28, 2014

    Watcher on the Couch

    Did I seem to gush about the strong female characters? I don’t recall saying that and did not intend to. Just I personally don’t have a problem with EC. But ‘twould be a dull world if we all thought the same as the saying goes.

    • Olga Hughes
      Reply September 29, 2014

      Olga Hughes

      No the second part of my comment was in reply to your Watcher, not the first part. I thought I’d hit reply to above your comment, WordPress nests comments and it gets rather confusing. I was replying to your comment on Daeny in the books, not Emilia.

      The media in general gushes about George’s female characters. What’s even more annoying is that the ‘strong woman’ is becoming a stereotype in itself, and I don’t think George really plays to those stereotypes.

  • Reply September 29, 2014

    Watcher on the Couch

    Reply to Olga’s statement of 29.9.14. We’ll agree to disagree about book Dany then?
    I misconstrued your meaning at first. I concur what you say about the “strong woman” becoming hackneyed in the media. It’s as if there had never been any strong female characters in earlier literature; like Thomas Hardy’s Bathsheba Everdene, Charlotte Bronte’s Jane Eyre and George Elliott’s Maggie Tulliver (to name but three) had never been written. And back in the day I guess William Makepeace Thackeray’s Becky Sharpe in “Vanity Fair” was what we’d call an anti-heroine now. Thinking of children’s literature, Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm fame was never my favourite character but the writer had Rebecca make mistakes sometimes.

    I think both show and book Dany may be on a hiding to nothing by fancying Daario…show Daario(s) are to me (both) more physically appealing than book Daario though.

    • Olga Hughes
      Reply September 29, 2014

      Olga Hughes

      Watcher – ah Rebecca of Sunnybrook farm, nice reference 🙂

      You don’t like the blue hair? Now I like the new actor better than the guy from season three – I really didn’t like him. Daario is supposed to be exotic, not look like Fabio. Then again they’re also missing Tycho’s giant purple hat so I suppose the show has to keep up with fashions. Maybe the blue hair and a tall purple hat are too distracting…

  • Reply September 30, 2014

    Jun

    I have been thinking about Olga’s comment regarding “strong female characters.” Usually it is pretty obvious whether a story is written from a (heterosexual) male or female perspective. In a decent-quality story written by a man, usually the male characters are pretty realistic or at least multifaceted, but there are at least one or two female characters that embody characteristics of an ideal mate for most men, such as being exceptionally beautiful (plus vulnerability is OK, plus bitchiness is not) or having a deep and unwavering sympathy of the male lead. Being tough or strong minded is complete acceptable if they also have the ideal-mate qualities. The same is true for stories written by women, in which the lead male characters serve as the vassal of the ideal mate. Or a simpler rule for the “gender” of a story is: Who is better looking, the male or female lead? Female stories (written by and for women) tend to have better looking male leads and vice versa.

    In ASOIAF, one would be hard pressed to find an ideal-mate type of character of either gender. Of course, different readers identify strongly with certain characters, but nearly every main character is also hated by a lot of people. Pick any popular character — Tyrion, Arya, Daenerys, Sansa, Ned, Catelyn, Jaime, Brienne — and he or she has some quality that makes them depart from our collective dream of ideal mates. George RR Martin doesn’t need to appeal to our ideal-mate fantasies to make us love his characters, male or female. This frees him up to do whatever he likes with them: kill them, maim them, humiliate them, show their sins, make them weak and angry and vicious and wrong.

    What is really surprising to me is how Martin seems to know women’s dreams for a desirable man, more than any (heterosexual) male author I have read. Well, he has proven that he knows what little girls dream of in Sansa. Very odd.

    ========== Book Spoilers ============

    From Dany’s point of view, Daario is perfect for her at this particular point in her life. Setting aside his seductive looks and the overt physical attraction between them, he is in fact an extremely nonaggressive man. He is aggressive in battle but not at all interested in politics or power. His sexual pursuit of her is completely devoid of any political ambition. He doesn’t want anything more than sex from her. Can we say the same for any man around Dany? No one except the Queensguard Barristan.

    A young woman in the position of power in a patriarchal society is sitting on a barrel of dynamite. The subplot of Dany in Meereen, if we put aside the hot-button slavery thing, is clearly modeled on Elizabeth I. (It’s so obvious that I have not recognized it until now.)

    Let’s not forget the motif of ASOIAF: Why would this person do that person’s bidding? Why would anyone obey another person? When it comes down to it, Daenerys Targaryen is no more than a 13-year-old girl with three dragons she can’t even control and eight thousand unsullied soldiers. Why would anyone do her bidding? Because her dragons would roast you if you run away? Why would anyone listen to and obey her? Because she can pay you gold and gems? Dany is surrounded by men, all of whom think they can do this job better than she. The only thing standing between them and her throne (a mere slab of stone) is her dragons and the tenuous bloodline that isn’t worth much nowadays. Even if they let her sit there, a man can gain real power and rule through her via marriage.

    Obviously, that was why a lot of men wanted to marry Elizabeth and she played the virgin game brilliantly to keep herself in power. It didn’t matter who she married. Any man she would have married — no matter how loyal and devoted and submissive he appeared — would instantly become a threat to her, simply by the fact that he is a man and she is a woman and everyone would obey him more readily.

    Anyone sitting on the throne is at risk, especially when love and sentiment and sex are mixed into the business. Even for men. Some Chinese emperors were known to execute their concubines as soon as they gave birth to a son, because they feared that the mothers would grab too much power through their sons, as history had warned with examples.

    Queens are inevitably even more vulnerable to the influence and control of their lovers and husbands. This is extremely dangerous. This is why Daario is perfect, while Jorah Mormont bad news from the start (Robert Dudley anyone?). Most readers don’t seem to understand this issue, including the TV screenwriters, and interpret these relationships through the rosy lense of “luuuurrve.” This is naive. Kings and Queens do not stay in power because they trust people around them who just happen to be completely loyal at heart and madly in love with them. When it’s about a king, people at least vaguely realize that power and politics are at play. When the story is about a girl queen, all they can think about is “Who loves her more?”

    • Reply October 3, 2014

      Olga Hughes

      Actually I have always thought Daeny was George’s perfect woman.

      Do you mean Jorah as Dudley or Daario? You’re messing with me Jun, I’m supposed to be doing something on Elizabeth I and Sansa, now you’ve thrown Daeny into the mix.

      • Reply October 3, 2014

        Jun

        Haha, sorry Olga. I meant Jorah as Dudley wannabe, if he had not been kicked out.

        I am pretty sure Dany is not George’s perfect woman.

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